6 SCSI Disks RAID 10 x 2 SCSI DISKS RAID1 + 4 SCSI Disks RAID 10
am 06.05.2010 15:10:49 von Renato Oliveira
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Good afternoon Guys,
I have been reading about RAID for PostgreSQL and some suggestions are:
6 SCSI Disks RAID10 for OS and DB
Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
I know the more spindles you have the better, but if you are going to be re=
ading and writing to the same volume with a single controller, how good tha=
t will be?
How do you guys have your RAIDS setup?
Thank you
Renato
Renato Oliveira
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Good afternoon Guys,
I have been reading about RAID for PostgreSQL and some
suggestions are:
6 SCSI Disks RAID10 for OS and DB
Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
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Renato
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Re: 6 SCSI Disks RAID 10 x 2 SCSI DISKS RAID1 + 4 SCSIDisks RAID 10
am 06.05.2010 15:35:46 von Scott Whitney
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Well, there are quite a few more variables to consider, including:
a) speed of the drives
b) battery backed caching controller or not
c) throughput of the controller channels
d) your particular use
Point d is kind of the most important. We've got about 250 customers talking to the same back-end database server with an IBM ServeRaid card. Our O/S is on a RAID 1 while our pgdata (including logs, in our case) is on an external FC array with 14 drives (12 online, 2 HSP, RAID 10). Our performance is pretty good, though we're a bit CPU bound (not I/O bound at this time) due to an older server system.
What sort of data/usage you're going to have in that database is pretty important. Heavy SELECT databases have different implications than heavy INSERT databases.
So far as the RAID controller goes, so long as it's got 2 or more channels, and the sustained throughput of the card is 100% on each channel, you're fine there.
We _did_ find a significant performance increase splitting our O/S and our PostgreSQL data, but *** in our case, at the time of testing *** we did not see an appreciable difference in splitting the logs off to their own volume.
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Good afternoon Guys,
I have been reading about RAID for PostgreSQL and some suggestions are:
6 SCSI Disks RAID10 for OS and DB
Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
I know the more spindles you have the better, but if you are going to be reading and writing to the same volume with a single controller, how good that will be?
How do you guys have your RAIDS setup?
Thank you
Renato
Renato Oliveira
> Systems Administrator
> e-mail: renato.oliveira@grant.co.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1763 260811
> Fax: +44 (0)1763 262410
> www.grant.co.uk
Grant Instruments (Cambridge) Ltd
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Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
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Re: 6 SCSI Disks RAID 10 x 2 SCSI DISKS RAID1 + 4 SCSIDisks RAID 10
am 06.05.2010 15:36:10 von imartinez
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I think it's better to put all disk in a RAID10. Your max throughput
with 6 disks will be a 50% better that with 4 disks, and operating
system once booted, does not have to read/write but a few times.
I would divide RAID volume in several partitions: at least, operating
system (/), swap and database (/srv/database) and better another for
homes (/homes). Optionally, another one for logfiles (/var/log).
That's my suggestion. Perhaps somebody has another point of view, but I
prefer to rely in RAID controller and not in putting database stuff in
separated disks.
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From: Renato Oliveira
To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org
Subject: [ADMIN] 6 SCSI Disks RAID 10 x 2 SCSI DISKS RAID1 + 4 SCSI
Disks RAID 10
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:10:49 +0100
Good afternoon Guys,
I have been reading about RAID for PostgreSQL and some suggestions are:
6 SCSI Disks RAID10 for OS and DB
Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
I know the more spindles you have the better, but if you are going to be
reading and writing to the same volume with a single controller, how
good that will be?
How do you guys have your RAIDS setup?
Thank you
Renato
Renato Oliveira
Systems Administrator
e-mail: renato.oliveira@grant.co.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1763 260811
Fax: +44 (0)1763 262410
www.grant.co.uk
Grant Instruments (Cambridge) Ltd
Company registered in England, registration number 658133
Registered office address:
29 Station Road,
Shepreth,
CAMBS SG8 6GB
UK
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I think it's better to put all disk in a RAID10. Your max throughput with 6 disks will be a 50% better that with 4 disks, and operating system once booted, does not have to read/write but a few times.
I would divide RAID volume in several partitions: at least, operating system (/), swap and database (/srv/database) and better another for homes (/homes). Optionally, another one for logfiles (/var/log).
That's my suggestion. Perhaps somebody has another point of view, but I prefer to rely in RAID controller and not in putting database stuff in separated disks.
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To: pgsql-admin@postgresql.org <>
Subject: [ADMIN] 6 SCSI Disks RAID 10 x 2 SCSI DISKS RAID1 + 4 SCSI Disks RAID 10
Date: Thu, 6 May 2010 14:10:49 +0100
Good afternoon Guys,
I have been reading about RAID for PostgreSQL and some suggestions are:
6 SCSI Disks RAID10 for OS and DB
Or
2 SCSI Disks RAID 1 for OS + 4 SCSI RAID 10 for DB
I know the more spindles you have the better, but if you are going to be reading and writing to the same volume with a single controller, how good that will be?
How do you guys have your RAIDS setup?
Thank you
Renato
Renato Oliveira
Systems Administrator
e-mail: renato.oliveira@grant.co.uk
Tel: +44 (0)1763 260811
Fax: +44 (0)1763 262410
Grant Instruments (Cambridge) Ltd
Company registered in England, registration number 658133
Registered office address:
29 Station Road,
Shepreth,
CAMBS SG8 6GB
UK
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